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Temple University The Problem of Subjectivity in Persepolis Discussion

Temple University The Problem of Subjectivity in Persepolis Discussion

Question Description

I’m working on a english writing question and need a sample draft to help me study.

Part 1: The Problem of Subjectivity in Persepolis

“In life you’ll meet a lot of jerks. If they hurt you, tell yourself that it’s because they’re stupid. That will help keep you from reacting to their cruelty. Because there is nothing worse than bitterness and vengeance . . . Always keep your dignity and be true to yourself” (154)

  • Marjane’s grandmother

Do this part of the discussion (your initial post) by 11:59pm on Thursday April 15

  1. Before you read any other student’s post rank the following in the order in which you think they are a jerk with #1 being the jerkiest. In your ranking briefly explain in each case why they are or are not a jerk

A) Momo, Thierry and Olivier 169-171,176,194-195

B) Julie 183-191

C) Enrique 211-217

D) Markus 222-225, 229-234-237

2. Before you read any other student’s post rank the following in the order in which you think Marjane is “true to herself” in her relationship with them with #1 being the relationship in which she is the most true to herself (or the least untrue). In your ranking briefly explain in each case in what sense she is or is not true to herself

A) Momo, Thierry and Olivier 169-171,176,194-195

B) Julie 183-191

C) Enrique 211-217

D) Markus 222-225, 229-234-237

Do this part of the discussion (your replies) by 11:59pm on Friday April 16

As a group, through the discussion board come to a consensus ranking on #1 and # 2 and develop the group’s explanation for each ranking. Cite evidence (quotes, particular panels)

  • Then choose one person from the group to write the Final Consensus for #1 and another person from the group to write the Final Consensus for #2
  • Each Final Consensus should contain the group’s ranking and the group’s explanation in each case supported by textual evidence for the ranking. (We think Enrique is the jerkiest because . . . We think Momo, Thierry and Olivier are the second biggest jerks because. . . And so on. We think Marjane is most true to herself in her relationship with Markus because . . . We think Marjane is the least true to herself in her relationship with Julie because . . . And so on)
  • Label each consensus “Final Consensus
  • Part 2: Lying as a New Kind of Flatness or Depthlessness in Persepolis

1. Frederick Jameson identifies a new kind of flatness or depthlessness as a postmodern force field. Is Marjane’s lying this new kind of flatness or depthlessness? Explain.

2. In each of the following instances Marjane lies. In each case say why she lies. Does she feel guilty about the lie? Why or why not ?

The lie

Why does she lie?

Does she feel guilty? Why or why not?

P 13 top panels (Marjane tells her parents she wants to be a doctor)

P58 top right panel (Marjane talks to some other kids)

P79 bottom right panel (Marjane talks about praying)

P117 (She lies to her mother)

P136-138 (Marjane lies to the Guardians of the Revolution)

P198 (Marjane lies that she is French)

P288-289 (Marjane lies about a man saying something indecent to her)

3. Marjane grows up under two political regimes that lie-first the Shah’s regime and then the regime of the Islamic Fundamentalists; sometimes she chooses to lie; once, her mother tells her to lie; and sometimes she lies for her own protection. How does such lying whether it is justified or not affect a person’s sense of self? Does lying affect Marjane’s character? Explain

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